Oops. We caused a little bit of a stir yesterday, when we commented on some inaccuracies in a blog post on Skype by new communications agency Campbell Lace (beta).
If you’re not sure who they are, CLB are a new agency set-up by Robert Campbell and Gary Lace who have had founding or senior roles in big advertising agencies such as RKCR, TBWA, and Grey. They are, in their own words, “an agency that is only three months old but desperate…”
Want to find out more? They have a one-page website, and Campaign host a blog for them.
And they’ve written some interesting stuff on their blog, that we agree wholeheartedly with, about collaboration and entrepreneurialism. They’ve also written some disarmingly honest stuff about their struggles with technology and their struggles with social media.
They also seem to specialise in something we’ve done in the past – crashing pitch lists. (Talking their way onto a ‘closed’ list at the last minute.) We did that on eBay in 2007 and went on to win.
Their latest blog post was an attempt to do that on the Skype pitch. Which again we admire. Who wouldn’t want to work on Skype? But in their enthusiasm they seemed to get a few facts wrong. We tried, but failed, to stop ourselves correcting them in the comments.
Here is CLB’s original post:
LET BETA HYPE SKYPE…
For the first time in our short but incredibly enjoyable history, we are going to use our blog to unashamedly get something off our chest. At the same time, hopefully, we’ll make it onto the radar of one of the most, if not the most, brilliant technological innovations of the last 2000 years. Skype.
Hands up anyone who knows what Skype is? Hands up anyone who knows how Skype works? Hands up anyone who knows how Skype charge you? Hands up anyone who has ever used Skype?
We ask because we believe passionately from the bottom of our Skypelorn hearts that Skype is one of the great untold stories of our generation.
In amongst the Facebooks and Twitters of this world, if anyone had told us five years ago that you would be able to make telephone calls to anybody from anywhere in the world and not be charged for them, while at the same time being able to see their lovely shiny happy face on a computer screen, we would have thought that they were having a laugh.
Well they weren’t, because Skype exists. It’s brilliant but nobody knows what it is or how to use it. Why is that ?
SEE NO SKYPE? SPEAK NO SKYPE? HEAR NO SKYPE?
The overwhelming conclusion we draw is that Skype has consistently and religiously worked with communications agencies that have failed to define one of the best customer propositions we’ve ever encountered.
Millions, no, maybe billions of people are gagging for Skype. Its just that they don’t know it. Skype needs to happen and we’d like to help. We think your product is the best in the world and we’d like you to call us.
Our telephone number is 0207 734 2949 and that is the direct line of one of the founding partners of an agency that is only three months old but desperate, yes desperate, to work with you. Please call.
And here is our response:
Hi Garry. We thought this post was very interesting and a ballsy attempt to muscle onto a pitch list. But, as the agency who’ve worked with Skype for the last 5 years, we couldn’t help but comment on a couple of little inaccuracies in what you said.
Firstly, plenty of people know exactly what Skype is, how it works and why they love it. For example, Skype has 70-odd-percent brand awareness in ‘mature’ Western European markets. And 480m users around the world.
Secondly, you describe Skype as an “untold story”. We think that’s only true if you see mainstream advertising as the only way to tell a story. Thousands of people are telling stories about Skype all the time. And Skype tell their own story all the time. But they just don’t do it in paid for media. Try a blog search, a Facebook search, a Twitter search, or get on Skype and talk to some of those hundreds of millions of users and you’ll soon see.
Thirdly you seem to imply that, in contrast to Skype, Facebook and Twitter are more successful marketing stories. They’ve definitely generated more UK column inches just lately, but globally it’s a different story. Plus Skype is twice the size of Facebook and growing almost as fast.
Lastly, we not sure what’s needed, more than anything else, is to ‘define the proposition’. To go back to your examples, we’d love to hear your take what Facebook and Twitter’s ’single minded propositions’ are? And assuming they each have one, how they’ve contributed to their success? We think modern digital brands are rich because they can be different things to different people at different times. How I use Skype for project management at work is totally different to how I use it to say goodnight to my daughter.
One last thought. We don’t know if yours is the right agency to take Skype on the next stage of the journey, but we think you’d probably be better off leaving your Skypename as a contact, not a phone number
But that’s just us being mean. So, to make amends, if you do get on the pitch list, we’d like to extend an invitation to you (and any other agencies pitching) to come in and have a chat, and we’ll try to pass on some of our genuine love for the brand.
Unfortunately it came across as more ranty than it was meant to be. I think the way Campaign’s blog loses the formatting of comments doesn’t help. And someone called our last point about leaving their Skypename “snarky” and “knowing and acerbic”, which again it wasn’t meant to be – we were just trying to be helpful. The people at Skype don’t have phones. They use Skype.
Anyway, there was quite a reaction to what we wrote on Twitter. Here are a few of the comments:
- “Albion want a chat, CLB want to talk at people. My money is on Albion.”
- “Stunned by the blog entry, naive isn’t the word esp. that he didn’t include a skypename – schoolboy error. Gr8 response”
- “Desperate Agency pipes up about Skype ad strategy. @albionlondon responds! Brilliant response!”
- “Just to say, your snarky ‘perhaps you should have left your skype username’ point was my favourite. campbell lace beta fail… “
- Who doesn’t love an agency cat-fight? Albion respond to CLBeta’s thoughts on Skype. Meow.
- Touche! Its fairly obvious who comes out on top in this little battle!
Thank you tweeple. But you do seem rather to have seen it as a ’spat’.
So we just wanted to use *our* blog to clear the air. We’re not really the kind of agency to have a pop at others. Maybe we did get a bit carried away and overdo the snark. It’s just that we’re feeling understandably sensitive about Skype at the moment.
So, Garry and Robert, no hard feelings. And if you do crash the list, we’ll make good on our promise to tell you whatever we know (and legally can).
UPDATE – We’re all friends now, and looking forward to going to their next bloggers’ breakfast.